Living in Sin? A Bishop Rethinks Human Sexuality ( ebook ) by John Shelby Spong
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OF MAN I READ THIS BOOK A COUPLE OF man I read this book a couple of ago so I m going off of memory here Bishop Spong is one of the first religious eaders I ever heard speak of homosexuality without judgment At the time I read this book I was in my early twenties in a committed Love on the Rocks Men Women and Alcohol in Post World War II America lesbian relationship When people would ask me what my religious beliefs were I d cross my fingers and say Jesus and I areike that But organized religion bugs me Frankly I felt unwelcome in most churches I grew up istening to people talk about how the Bible says homosexuality is a sin My #Friends In High School And #in high school and were bullied and threatened with death by our peers for being gay or bi or uestioning All these years ater it s still a crazy harsh world we ive in but it s
getting better for kids who are gay or bi or uestioning I can t wait to re read this book better for kids who are gay or bi or uestioning I can t wait to re read this book see how I feel about it today Highly recommended to open minds Another ace in the hole for Spong Oh how I am hoping the Christian church will wake soon and once and for all begin practicing acceptance and inclusiveness instead of the opposite Spong faces touchy subjects in this book and offers readers another perspective A realistic view of what is really going on in this world today with it s problems Christians need a fresh approach for the issues of modern day I believed that what Spong shares in this book does just that Five big fatty stars means that this one is a GOOD read If you are in any way interested in the ever crushing Christian religious debate surrounding homosexuality this book is really phenomenal Especially considering how early it is in this debate of the broader Church mid 80s I think Spong s challenge to THE Church about the debate on sexuality is refreshing even 25 years into this soul numbing argument Spong is thoughtful and even handed though a few chapters drag on and he is above all compassionate If only the ELCA had read this 25 years ago we could all have been saved the heartache of a egacy of exclusivity In a pattern that by now is becoming typical if not expected with Spong he organizes the book in three parts Part I The Revolution Part II The Bible Part III Some New Proposals As an appendix he includes the Report of the Episcopal Task Force on Changing Sexuality and Family Life 1986 There is a 4 page bibliography and a 4 page index Notes are included at the end of each chapterChapter 1 is entitled Setting the Stage I uote the opening For Discrimination linesSome people will regard this book as a book about sex I regard it as a book about prejudice For centuries sexual attitudes sexual taboos and sexual practices have been used by dominant groups in society to keep others subordinate Those who possess power define those who are powerless and then impose their own definition on the ones defined The guiding principle is to ensure the comfort the convenience the happiness and the well being of the dominant onesBehind prejudice there is also fear We reject that which we cannot manage We condemn what we do not understand We set up a means of control to render powerless those dynamic realities we know to be powerful No aspect of our humanity is invested with anxieties yearning emotions an d needs than is our sexual nature So sex is a major arena in which the prejudice of human beings finds expressionThis accounts for the anger and even the violence that erupts when sexual control mechanisms are publicly challenged p23All that being said he pretty well covers the waterfront of sexuality inside and outside of one man one woman marriagebetween single persons before marriage or after marriage and divorce or being widowedhomosexuality ordination andeadership of women etc After essentially a Academic Writing, Real World Topics lifetime of experiencing the church handling sexuality in a very poor and inadeuate way I find it very refreshing and encouraging to find a churchman who engages the realities all around us and provides someeadership into the futureWhen I read of the current pope s recent uestionaire of his bishops on a spate of social issues generally dealing with sexual s and attitudes I reflected on the fact that Spong wrote this book addressing these same issues in 1988 25 years ago Is he intelligent and knowledgeable Is he insightful as in prophetically so Is he intellectually honest Is he apparently fearlessly courageous Is he helpful Of courseyesyesyesyes and yes Do I need to say yes again Yes I Repressed Memories A Journey to Recovery from Sexual Abuse FiresideParkside Recovery Book love this book I wish there was a way to make this mandatory reading for everyone who claims to be a Christian Bishop Spong shakes the bones of every Christian tradition relating to women sex sexuality and gender and asks us to wake up and rethink these traditions on the basis of the world we NOWive it Some of what is here will be shocking BUT if you follow his research and Experiments in a Jazz Aesthetic logic you willikely be persuadedIn his epilogue Spong states I can take consolation from the fact that people African Literature 9 like me whoove the church and yet dare to uestion the church s conventional wisdom can over a Alien Conquest long enough period of time make a vital difference Written in 1988 some of what he proposed has already begun to take effect Much of it is still waiting to be implemented. Toral response based on scripture and history to the changing realities of the modern world He calls for a moral vision to empower the church with inclusive teaching about eualoving nonexploitative relationship.
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book evidences Bishop Shelby Spong at his best being years ahead of his time than a full uarter century in this case in advocating for a spiritually evolved form of Christianity that is Secrets of the TEAS® Exam Study Guide life enhancing and affirming forto allIn the spirit of full disclosure this has to be the eighth or ninth book by Bishop Spong that I ve read so I m both a fan and a follower In my experience his wisdom is deep both in terms of its profundity and its volume This book is further evidence thereofAittle bit of back story may be helpful Ostensibly this book is the s public response to a study on sexuality that was commissioned in #his diocese his encouragement back in the mid 1980s Its purpose #diocese with his encouragement back in the mid 1980s Its purpose to be thoughtful about how to evolve the Episcopal church s approach to sexuality generally and also specifically with respect to three groups of people unmarriedpre married young people gay and Rising Above The Influence: A True Story about Alcohol, Drugs, and Recovery lesbian et al people and post marrieddivorced adultsIn some sense the study is a helpful pretext for the Bishop to suggest new approaches to some of the church s most alienating theological interpretations and the policies that resulted from them Specifically the Bishop considered the church s then current approaches to pre marital sex homosexuality and post marital sex anachronistic ineffective and dehumanizing Suffice it to say that even as the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s was cooling in no small part due to the contagion of the AIDS epidemic of the 80s very few people observed the celibacy that was the church s only prescription for the members of these three groups In part the Bishop felt compelled to address these issues because he has wanted to stem the ebb of the church s influence and clearly feels that the church should indeed play a role in helping people to address so cardinal a realm of their beingspiritualives as their sexualityAnd he does a nice job of setting the context explaining why and how the world has changed and therefore why and how the church s theologypolicyteaching has to evolve as well In sum he believes that an active sexual relationship can indeed be holy outside of marriage and elucidates some common sense and accessibly spiritual guidelines for this to be the caseWhich all sounds sort of Duh to us now except that this book was published in 1988 over 25 years ago when such humane and spirit affirming wisdom was truly cutting edge to put it nicely Again this book evidences the Bishop at his best being years ahead of his time than a full uarter century in this case in advocating for a spiritually evolved form of Christianity that is Conjure In African American Society life enhancing and affirming forto allWhat s perhaps a touch sad and revealing of us is that the book also exposes the Bishop s naivete one of his predictions at the time was that it would take a decade or so for his forward thinking to be widely accepted As we know we re just now beginning to grapple with these issues both spiritually and politically The fact that gay marriage is not universally supported in either our churches or our society and theaws that bind it attests to just how revolutionary and important this workbookevolved spirituality was and isSo it s truly groundbreaking spiritual work and worth a thoughtful and considered as well as reverent read It s not perfect there are a few patches in which the context is unnecessarily dense andor the discussion is datedclearly time bound but it s inspiring to think that Bishop Spong was challenging us and the church to be so universally Womens Political Activism in Palestine loving and inclusive over a uarter century ago is both impressive and motivating He was one of several voices crying out in the wilderness It s great to see that he and his fellow visionaries have been proven correct and that we are beginning to celebrate our shared humanity in all of its forms with or without the institutional church s blessing That John Shelby Spong has goaded us and our churches to be humane in our spirituality and our practice of religion is indeed his greatestegacy Living in Sin will remind you of just how visionary he has been and is Though many Evangelicals would probably view many of his thoughts as heretical and though I did not find myself agreeing with all or even most of his ideasI feel that if the Church would embrace the uestions he raises with as much compassion as he exhibits we would impact so many people in a positive way for Christ I do feel that he falls a bit too far into postmodern thinking we all have our own measure of truth or what is holy yet raises important debate about how sexuality affects society in ways than just homosexuality He addresses divorce single Chrisitans pre marital sex the Biblical foundation of gender and other avenues of sexuality Through it all he urges the church to find a open stance to reach people at Alien Commanders Bride (Draconians, large without arrogance and false pride Though I don t think his uestions have easy or clear one size fits all answers if of us would be willing to discuss the subjects he raises with prayer and withovethe church and society would be better off Spong helps readers to understand some of the notions of our culture in regard to sexuality rel. Is celibacy the only moral alternative to marriage Should the widowed be allowed to form intimate relationships without remarrying Should the church receive people who identify as LGBT into its community and supp. ,This Book Evidences Bishop
Igion the inability to reconcile two Too many people still see sexuality as something that The alphas abused mate lives on the dirty ofife s fence Much people still see sexuality as something that Word Alchemy lives on the dirty side ofife s fence Much that misguided thinking stems from religious trickle down theory Whether one has ever been part of a religious tradition or had any religious training at all doesn t matter No one in modern culture escapes the beliefs that are handed down from preceding generations Though one may think he s immune there are cultural stigmas prejudices which don t make much sense but are nevertheless still prevalent in modern society which have their roots in religionJohn Shelby Spong is provocative powerful in his approach to the holiness of ife That is how holiness should be Bishop Spong once again makes an appeal #to the intellect of the faithful and their eaders to act and not react with intelligence rather than fear #the intellect of the faithful and their eaders to act and not react with intelligence rather than fear it falls upon many a deaf ear and stone cold heartsSpong addresses many Biblical translation errors mis interpretation and proof texting used to discriminate and oppress women and those with alternative ifestyles I actually oathe the term alternative as it implies that the dominant culture is correct and superior The uestion Why have people and sexuality evolved but not religion is addressed Why do so many church eaders still judge and damn folks through the My Hero Academia memes for kids - Funny New Memes 2019 lenses of centuries oldBishop Spong does a nice job at taking various parts of Judeo Christian scripture that are used as a penal code by fundamentalists today and walks the reader through the times and history of each Bible verse It is easy to see why folks misunderstand the Bible in the first place but inexcusable that they do not modify their antiuated and hateful views It is deplorable that we have so called Christians that bear posters and signs declaring GOD HATES FAGS GOD HATES JEWS and other hate speech in today s society Their ways and views are so antithetical to Jesus reported ways that it is just mind numbing that they apply the term Christian to their very beingThe good bishop offers some sound wisdom regarding divorce as well Iove the After the Tears liturgy he proposes to have a Divorce Ceremony for couples who have exhausted other means for the salvation of their marriage no pun intended Theiturgy and description of said ceremony is simply beautiful and heart wrenching I will be adding this to the Daddy Blames Me list of services that I offer as an Interfaith PastorSpong takes the infamous three things to not discuss at a party sex politics and religion and meets them head on with theological maturity and wisdom There is aot that people can Statistical Arbitrage: Algorithmic Trading Insights and Techniques (Wiley Finance) learn from this book We have come far but not far enough in our treatment and respect for others Hiding behind a cross and the anger of a god is noonger fair nor acceptable behaviourThe school of Facing the Rising Sun literalism needs to be closed once and for all It has and continues to destroy families and society Listen to the All Loving Christians around you as they discuss those people and judge and ostracize folks that don t thinkike they do Didn t their Jesus associate with the marginalized of the world WWJD I think gag and shake his head in shame over his followers that hijacked his views and turned them into dogmatic hatred Being on the people that the church typically Best African American Fiction 2010 loses unmarried college educated 20s this book reignited my interest in the Church I found it hard to believe that the creator of physics of science of biology of all these amazing things would really tell me that as a woman I need to find some man to serve that I should keep uiet in church that if we women want to get marriedater in Her Alien Bodyguard (The Guards Of Attala, life after our career we should really be celibate We should hate our homosexual friends beautiful relationships I uestion everything I read and want to know the background and context of everything why should the Bible be excluded Spong informs the reader of how the Bible itself has been accepted in different ways by the Gentiles who could not be Christians according to the Jewishaw Inclusivity had to begin once the Bible became universal A Teacher For An Alien Doctor (Intergalactic Exchange Program, literal reading of the Bible is impossible because of its contradictions but this doesn t take away from the Bible The Word of God is resolute in wanting to usove each other accept each other etcI truly believe that if we don t begin at New Trends Generations in African Literature Today, Alt 20 least toean toward the way Spong allows for us to interpret the Bible With the same academic detail with which we study other The Battle over Marriage literature the Bible can truly persevere for ages We can discard the gender biases that made women property that asks us to be celibate for decades that asks us to stay in unhappy marriages Does that really sound inine with a God who says throughout the Bible we should seek fuller Teaching History for Justice lives Marriage wasn t the same whenifespans were around 40 years Lifespans have doubled sexuality no Laughing to Keep from Dying longer means procreation If we keep attempting to indoctrinate future generations with these ideas which are strange now to our new reality we willose every person of my demographic Just INTERRACIAL ROMANCE like the adhering to the Jewish rule had to be expanded to include the reality of a universal religion we need to also realize theife and reality can still be moral through the interpreta. Ort gay and Stolen Years lesbian relationships Should congregations publicly anditurgically witness and affirm divorces Should the church's moral standards continue to be set by patriarchal males Bishop Spong proposes a pas.